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26 May 2013 Sunday
 
 
 
 
 
 
Columnists 10 July 2012, Tuesday 35 0 0 0
YAVUZ BAYDAR
y.baydar@todayszaman.com

2015, Turkey, France

In the aftermath of the Sarkozy era, which Turkey’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu, has described as “a nightmare,” the shaping of policies between Ankara and Paris will be very significant.

France may be -- hopefully -- brought to a new way of thinking, recognizing that a different approach to Turkey will reinforce its power status in the EU, while Turkey with the President François Hollande administration may find a friendly counterpart benevolent enough to resolve some key problems between the two nations.

The most significant issue that has stood between the two capitals, pouring poison into relations, is the tragic fate of the Ottoman Armenians in 1915. Former President Nicolas Sarkozy was personally a driving force inflicting blows on the open wound, coldly calculating Turkey’s reaction, and insisting on a law in France criminalizing the denial of the Armenian genocide. He was doomed to fail, and by forcing the French constitution in the wrong direction, he did. The question remained: What did he care less about, the pain of the Armenians worldwide, freedom of speech, or the Turks’ desire to join the EU? Probably each one mattered less than the next.

The new era in France under Hollande is sending mixed signals, while Turkey continues to conduct a slow-motion search for ways to deal with that horrific part of its past. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius declared after meeting with Davutoğlu that there would be no attempts to enliven the “denial law” bid. However, other sources suggest that President Hollande is not in total agreement with this stance. He is in touch with some influential diaspora organizations in France, and has pledged that the issue will remain on France’s agenda.

Taken equally in relation to both countries, if Hollande’s stance is as reported, it spells trouble, notably for the simple reason that what Sarkozy tried to do only complicated things, pushing Turkey into defensive mode, as under Justice and Development Party (AKP) rule it is in constant search mode. Lessons of that period are clear: If you mean well for Turkey, this is absolutely no way to show it.

Hollande is smart enough to understand this, but he also knows that many of his prominent comrades in the EU -- in both the Socialist and Green camps -- have remained rather firm that the positive aspects of the AKP revisiting the past far outweigh its negatives. In other words, it is not who will be punished for the denial of genocide that matters as much as how the Turkish state will be helped to come to terms with apology, regret or whatever the appropriate response may be in relation to the crimes committed by the military junta of the late Ottoman Empire. Awareness of this shows the difference between cynicism and friendly commitment.

The search mode of Ankara is undeniable. Davutoğlu reaffirmed it during his Paris visit. On his way back, he deeply explored the issue by sending signals to Paris. Here is what he said:

“How I wish that the protocols [between Turkey and Armenia] had been implemented! But … it was the balance in the Caucasus that prevented it. If Armenia had been able to withdraw from only one ‘region’ of the seven it occupies in Nagorno-Karabakh, the border would be open. I had persuaded [Azerbaijani President Ilham] Aliyev. Azerbaijan would also have opened its border then. I still regret it badly, because we were all on the verge of success. I had asked [Armenian President Serzh] Sarksyan: ‘Withdraw from only one and Yerevan will be the most beautiful city in the region. It is an advantage to be a neighbor to Turkey.’ He could not because of internal obstacles. But the issue is still on the table and conditions for implementation can rise again. We are searching; we know that this will lighten the burden of [the 100th anniversary of the killings of Armenians in] 2015.”

The foreign minister continued: “Second, we are searching for a new language of communication. We are establishing new, different relations with the diaspora. We have to sit down and talk. Our aim is to break the ice. Now there is and will be somebody who sits down before the Armenians and listens to them. I am not a foreign minister who keeps telling them that ‘no, nothing happened in 1915.’ Third, we are preparing for new messages regarding 2015. We are searching for a new language around the term ‘fair memory.’ I am also working on a new book on Ottoman history. I do not call it genocide, but say nothing when somebody else says it is.”

These are not brand new thoughts expressed by Davutoğlu. If anything, it is an example of the search mood, but would be meaningless if Sarkozy’s methodology were to continue in Paris.

The key lies in cooperation between “new” France and “new” Turkey. As has been demonstrated by Alain Juppe, French minister of foreign affairs from 2011 to 2012, both governments can facilitate explorative talks about a commission of independent historians with the aim of guiding Turkey to finding peace with the events of 1915. After all, France is the most trusted “protector power” of Armenia in Europe, and has profound relations with Turkey. A different mode would indeed help us all overcome nasty obstacles, and the decades-long festering of buried shame and denial.

COMMENTS
Cowboy non offensive comments are published.Now stick to your cows.
VTiger
Senol, I expect nothing from your country and I no longer believe, thanks to you and many other Turkish commentators that reconciliation is next to impossible. Congratulations, you "won." I do however firmly believe that it is important to attach a price to attitudes like yours when they become pa...
Jack Kalpakian
VTiger You are another foolish Armenian liar. How do you know that Armwnian weekly is posting all my comments. I posted at least 6 comment in the last two days. They have been deleted.This isn't the right place to show what Armenian Weekly doing constantly because I should make comments about this a...
john the turk
@Jack K, your receptivity Armenian sob story is becoming tiresome. Get this through your thick head, there is nothing, nothing, that is nothing to apologize for, and leave it at that. If you need our acknowledgement to get on with your life after a century, then it goes to show you have major issues...
Senol
Turkish cowboy john the vain is always present at AW.Offensive remarks are banned everywhere.
VTiger
2015 - Nothing will happen except polemics and hate tirades on news paper blogs and a lot of films will be aired which thematize the world 100 years ago.
zynell
forget all hostilities and polemics...MONEY TURNS THE WORLD...daily politic agenda of every country is economic relations...SO What offers Turkey - What offers France...to balance the equilibrium...and even the Armenians in Armenia wishes to open the gates to earn some money
zynell
Surely a new approach would be for Turkry to come to terms with its own history and accept the truth of The Armenian Genocide without an "alleged" or "so called" before it. This is of key importance to Turkey's EU membership. Don't get me wrong, this is not the only factor that has to be dealt with,...
Hrant
To: "john the Turk": First of, you need to learn to STOP throwing childish tantrums against the Armenians. I am a Turk, just like you, however according to the US state department, the major point of the "Turkish-Armenian" protocols was supposed to be "unconditional." That was what the US government...
Mine Ozcelik Bagrationi
Rafael Lemkin,the Polish Jewish lawyer in 1943termed the word Genocide,which means acts which are committed with intend to destroy in whole or in part,a national ,ethical,racial or religious groups.I quote his words,"I became interested in genocide because it happened so many times,first to Armenian...
Gaidzag Magdassian
@john the turk, you are the only delusional one here based on the remarks you made. First of all, there is NO such thing as ancient Turkish lands in Asia Minor, todays Anatolia, and the rest of Turkey. If you are truly interested in discovering your roots you will have to travel a couple of thousand...
Ararat
join the Turk you are General Sherman with another nickname! of course your racist comments can be posted only on few papers, only those who share your hatred and racism. If you want to see mushrooms clouds over Ankara try to give Armenians another lesson. After all everybody knows who lies when it...
Araratian
Armenians should first explain how 210.000 anatolian refugee armenians dead in Armenia between 1915-1917 from total of 500.000 armenian refugees if there was no sickness at that time. @john the turk, even international court find Turkey guilty Turkey wont change her stand.
salih
Babeouf! Without communist Lenin,s huge support with gold and military equipment , Ataturk could not fight the alies , and invade and occupy western Armenian cities Kars and Ardahan .
Vartan
Again, Mr. Davutoglu is trying to white-wash genocide with a few niceties and platitudes aimed at Armenians. He seems to think the rest of the free-thinking world can be led away from the truth as easily as Turkey has been for the last 90 years. Don't worry, 2015 will come with rather grand-scale Ge...
Gavur
Araratian I said Armenians are liars.You prove me right as you are a liar saying %80 of your comments are not posted on TZ. You told this lie right away because I said Armenian weekly put ban to the Turkish Posters. Have you ever complained about your comment not posted? No. No Armenian has ever co...
john the turk
John the Turk - A mere glance of the Ottoman Turkish history of between 1299 and 1918 and the modern Turkish Republic in endless invasions, massacres, forced conversions, destrucion of churches, monasteries, schools and en masse murder of million in over 31 modern nations shows who is the REAL aggre...
Garo
"It is an advantage to be a neighbor to Turkey," says the FM. Obviously, he has either not heard of the things shared so generously here by "John the turk" or pretends not to. Under any interpretation, the statement is condescending and offensive prime facie in addition to being patently false. T...
Jack Kalpakian
Babeouf , and without U.S. and western aid and help for over 70 years Turkey would have became roasted, stuffed dinner, or maybe a cheap turkey ham sandwich. What you say about others is right over you.
Garo
If turkey is sincere about knowing the truth through Historians why do not they send some of these historians or journalists to interview the still over 200 existing survivors of the Genocide in close Armenia only. A lot of these survivors speak turkish. Give a proof you are sincere! as for the Geno...
Araratian
Hamasdegh The Armenian diaspora and Armenia or whoever you think like the president Obama or the French president etc should do whatever they can in their power to harm the Turkish interest. We are quite happy to play with Armenians.Turkey will not accept the fake Armenian genocide neither in 2015 n...
john the turk
it is not fair and true to call a nation liar except Armenians. They are very good liars and can easily tell lies as long as it serve their purposes. Telling lies is part of their daily life along side with the fake Armenian genocide.When they tell a lie they do not feel that they are lying. Arme...
john the turk
Dear Armenians You see the difference between the oppressive Armenian paper and the free Turkish paper.Back to the main topic,Armenians very well deserved to be removed from Turkey in 1915 and the Armenian mortality cannot be called genocide so it is just wisful thinking to blame the CUP leaders th...
john the turk
Dear Armenians Well come to the freedom world. You enjoy the freedom of speech on these pages do not you? But why put ban to the Turk poster on Armenian weekly? Armenian weekly is an American Armenian online publication means freedom of speech?I am sure you will keep quite and try to pass but it wo...
john the turk
A lot this was responded to on the Dogu Ergil piece, but let me focus on one statement of the FM: "It is an advantage to be a neighbor to Turkey." No, Mr. FM, to be a neighbor to your country is a blood-stained cross of granite. And if you insist on denying that, there is the body of Hrant Yeprad ...
Jack Kalpakian
What exactly does Mr Davutoghlu want from Armenia and us the diaspora ? Agree with he's ridiculous characterization of the Genocide as simple Relocation ? Really ? Sending hundreds of thousands of elderly women and children to the desert without food or water is relocation ? And second ,give Nagor...
Vartan
In older times my father would say: "Eski Tass, Eski Hamam". I wonder whether this makes sense in modern Turkish. I am dead certain that Foreign Minister Davutogku, Prime Minister Rejeb Erdogan, President Gul are intelligent , well read and smart people. I do not doubt that Turkish politicians in ge...
Hamasdegh
Now is a good opportunity for Turkey to show to the world it cares what happened to the Ottoman Armenians. Turkey should acknowledge the fact that the Young Turk administration was criminal, the massacres were well planed by them to eliminate the Armenian population and Turkey is willing to at least...
ara
Turkey only wants to decieve Armenians and wants to buy time now,because there are still Armenian genocide survivors among us.if turkey is serious,its should hear the life stories of the survivors.
Garo Avedis
What Turkey and Turks did to the Armenian Diaspora can NEVER be repaired. Words of Turkish ministers mean nothing at this point.
Mani
"I do not call it genocide", what is it else? It is a genocide. There is no other word to define what it was, the entire extermination of Armenians from their homeland, seizure of properties, goods, money, lands,monasteries, forced conversion to Islam, forced marriage of abdicted girls, all kind of...
Words game lead no where
Part2. Turkey has also learned over the last 20 years that it can not force and dictate its foreign policy on Armenia by exerting its will on the Armenians through border blockade. Turkey has gained nothing because of the border blockade but has lost quite a bit. Armenians are going about their busi...
Ararat
Part1. Turkey is suffering from a major dilemma. It wants to conduct its foreign policy based on the old dictatorial, militaristic and fascistic mentality but it has learned it has to deal with the new world order. It is slowly realizing that the old tactics do not work anymore and that there are co...
Ararat
Armenian lies and propaganda constitute aggression and are the only obstacle to normaliztion. As long as criminal armenian gangs continue to distort history with armenian lies while pursuing hostile acts against Turkey relations cannot be established. As long as 20% of Azerbaijan remains under ille...
Ayhan
'France is the most trusted ?protector power? of Armenia in Europe'. Don't over egg the pudding. Without direct Russian military support(bases ,planes,tanks etc) Armenia would have been toast long ago.
Babeouf
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