Armenian question: despair and hope
 
 
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19 May 2013 Sunday
 
 
 
 
 
 
Columnists 26 April 2012, Thursday 41 0 0 0
ORHAN KEMAL CENGİZ
o.cengiz@todayszaman.com

Armenian question: despair and hope

As a person who lives in Turkey day in and day out, sometimes I become very hopeful, and sometimes I find myself in such a pessimistic mood. And these two moods may follow each other one day after another.

The other day I attended a debate on one of the most popular TV channels in Turkey. The topic was the “Armenian question.” An Armenian intellectual, Garo Paylan, and I were on one side of the debate. The other “front” was a nationalist block, consisting of a former Republican People’s Party (CHP) politician and two academics, one of whom was from the Turkish Historical Society (TTK).

The debate was extremely suffocating. All of a sudden many official “arguments” were raining down on us. It was really annoying to see that these people never change their arguments one bit. They do not even try to be smarter or more sophisticated. But the most annoying thing came at the end. The debate was very hot, sometimes very intense and our “official historian” uttered some words, which shocked us. He cautioned Garo by saying that “he may end up in California” like his ancestors. This gentleman is a historian in Turkey’s official historical institution, and he is responsible for the Armenian question.

Can Turkey move forward an inch with this kind of “historian”? I left the TV channel having a serious headache and very seriously concerned about the future of this country.

However, the other day I read an interview with one of the founders of the ruling party who is the İstanbul deputy from the Justice and Development Party (AKP) for the time being. I become very hopeful once again. I underlined some of his remarks, which were published in the Radikal daily. Let’s read them together:

“In 1915, an ‘abnormal thing’ that had not occurred before in the 1000-year history and civilization codes of this nation happened. Historians must bring to light all related documents. A single repository of these documents must be created and politicians should assess the resulting findings. Then, the international community should make a decision to assess the situation. This is my personal proposal. I believe that what our Armenian citizens, our Armenian friends experienced was not ‘genocide’ but a ‘genoxile’. If genocide had been the true aim, then the methods of destruction used by the Spanish and the Portuguese against South African natives or by Americans against Native Americans or by Germans against Jews would have been used. It was the Committee of Union and Progress (CUP) that was responsible for the pain and sufferings of Turks, Armenians and all citizens at that time. This is not acceptable in the least.”

“If you try to create a nation-state, you will pit people against each other. We [The Turkish Republic] are not responsible for those incidents, but the CUP is. Yet we should be able to say, ‘We apologize for those incidents in our past.’ I personally offer this apology for the ‘genoxile’ [a portmanteau meaning ‘sending a race to exile’]. If you confuse the fight against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) with the ‘struggle against a people’, a very tragic situation will emerge. It can not be explained. The massacre performed by Armenian gangs in cooperation with some foreign countries is one thing and the relocation of our Armenian citizens is another thing. The CUP confused the Armenians gangs with innocent Armenian citizens. And it made all Armenians pay the price. In history, there are other examples of forced relocation. People being relocated must be sent with extreme security. Is this what happened with the Armenian relocation? No... No person should settle in the home or country of other people. I don’t do this. Today, the properties belonging to the foundations established by some religious minorities are being returned. This should not go unnoticed.”

“If the Armenian nation and the Turkish nation work together, they can solve this problem. God, the Qur’an and prophets allow themselves to be questioned and discussed. God says, “If there had been multiple gods, there would be chaos.” But we cannot discuss certain taboos. When you talk about them, they raise the hell. We must overcome this. Everyone will believe and live as they believe. No one will impose certain lifestyles or beliefs on other people. This is the main point... I cannot hold the Armenian nation as separate from the Turkish nation. Their sorrows are ours. No human is more ‘human’ than others. No one is privileged. We should be open to criticism. At that time, people took sides and acted with racist attitudes. This should be open to discussion... Turkey should open the border crossing on its common border with Armenia while the status of the Azerbaijani lands occupied by Armenia is being discussed. These people who have lived together with us and who have shared the same feelings with us and who have used the same literary language should be relieved of their sorrows. Such things should not be sacrificed to the political tensions.”

Whether I agree with every word or not, AKP deputy İsmet Uçma’s words give me hope again. I wish more people like him would come forward and speak out openly. The key to any solution for the Armenian question lies in the hands of these non-nationalist people amongst both Turks and Armenians. God bless them!

COMMENTS
There is no legal proof in the form of a signed document that Hitler ordered or knew anything about the Holocaust either. Shall we quite foolishly accuse the Jews, especially the survivors, of lying just to slander the Germans?
David
this is soothing article,but it does not reflect the truth,I don't agree with this term "Genoxile",this is new,if that was the case,then why among the butchered we find babies,Armenian babies dropped alive in the Black sea?
Garo Avedis
necati, you wouldn't know what to do with the truth of the Armenian Genocide. That's why you resort to infantile rhetoric.
Q4b
@itizen "Turks killed 1,500,000 Armenians " ..You have a legal proof ? if yes, go to the IJC. if not , you are just a liar as a typical armenian gossipping around.
necati
Adam Orman You are spot on man regarding the Coward Armenians. You will not even receive a response from Armenians because they have no excuse. But I guarante you they will pop up tomorrow and make foolish comments like Turkey must admit the Armenian genocide. By the way, It is not Turkey's business...
satrap
If Armenians and Turks have any evidence to prove their claims and counter-claims, they both separately or together should open a case at an internationally recognized, unbiased, independent court of law, or set up an inquiry of unbiased, honest and independent experts to put an end to this hundred-...
adam orman
Sandokhan, allow me to make a correction to your post. It is Not the Armenians who put the number of killed at 1.5 million. That number is the Deflated figure. The Arabs in Syria at the time, put the figure around 2 million. It was the American ambassador, the German military attache in Istanbul, Je...
Preston Bagrationi
JDB's Asian Appearance Lost? The nomadic tribes that migrated to Anatolia did so over a long period of time and in small numbers relative to the sedentary populations already inhabiting the area. They did have a much greater cultural/linguistic and religious impact on these groups that they interm...
Visitor
Visitor You Armenians dream about something that is impossible . I can understand why their forefather lost their battle against Turks.Did you not read my comment below? the International court can only determine whether or not the Armenian genocide was committed. Oh Turkey will recognise the Armeni...
satrap
Turks killed 1,500,000 Armenians...may their souls rest in peace after a horrific genocide.
Citizen
Every Turk who only remembers the sufferings of the Armenians, but closes his eyes for that of the Turks (and also Kurds and other Muslims) should be ashamed.--- Russian officer Abgral witnessing Armenians (Russia had been the war enemy of the Turks): “I heard the cries of women. I opened the door a...
Sandokhan
The road to accepting 1915 runs through Kurdistan, in other words, in reverse chronological order. In this sense, the public apology of the PM for the Dersim massacre and the crimes of the Republican governments and their military is an important prelude to grappling with an earlier period. It is ...
visitor
Many of my dear Turkish friends dream of the day they will return to the Altai Mountains. When and how did the Turkic peoples loose their Asian appearance?
JDB
@John K.: The same can be said for the thousands of Turks, Kurds and other Muslims butchered by the Armenian Dashnak gangs. ---@Araratian Ararat: One of the methods Armenian and their supporters use to sell their genocide is exaggeration (remember the inflated 1,5 million figure). In Turkey their im...
Sandokhan
@Rudolphus, you’re telling the official Armenian view: the relocation had been a tool to exterminate the Armenians. ---You forget the hundreds of thousands of Armenians in Western Anatolia were not relocated. ---Also you neglect the fact that the Ottoman request from February 1919. In February 191...
Sandokhan
Dear Cengiz I watched the program that you participated in. I understand your frustration as the opposite view had a upper hand.It didn't look like parroting what Rafael Lemkin said this or that without deep knowledge. Uluc Gurkan hit you hard by explaining what exactly Rafael Lemkin said and what ...
satrap
Its simple, If the Armenians didnt back stab and kill innocent unarmed Turks then no one would have died. Armenians accept that your ancestors made a greedy land grab and paid a heavy price for there actions (not genocide) - who in there right mind would keeps there enemy who is killing them in ther...
ATC
The word Genocide as accepted by the UN
Muhamad Nagib
@Necati (AKA Satrap, G. Sherman), Your foolish International Court argument take it up with your government Turkiye who supports and deals with convicted Genocide perpetrator El-Bahsir or Sudan, and refused to arrest him as required by the IC decree requiring anyone to do so when he visited Turkey.
Uncle Billy
I did catch some of that debate on tv, Mr Cengiz and I agree with the guest "The Sojourner". The fact that these debates are taking place, and people have been remembering the Armenians in various towns in Turkey on 24th April for the past few years, are all good signs. I also believe Mr İsmet Uçma’...
Baris
Genoexile killings kidnapping of children rape ethnic cleansing=GENOCIDE
VTiger
Mr. Cengiz The Armenian question will have to be dealt through an international court.Until such time comes, The Armenian claims has no value whatsoever. I know that you have been dubbed by Taner Akcam but Even Taner Akcam and his forgery lover Vahan Dadrian can not make the fake genocide come true...
satrap
Orhan Kemal Bey, I thought you and Garo Bey contributed magnificently to the debate, which I watched mesmerized, though sometimes extremely pained. The fact that we now can have such debates is something to be hopeful for in itself. Of course, the reaction of the other side was sad, but I think thos...
The Sojourner
Mr Ismet Ucma deserves full marks whether we fully agree with him or not! He is a courageous man. And let's remember that the three architects of the Armenian genocide were tried and condemned to death in an Ottoman Court of law -albeit they had already escaped abroad.
David
The bottom line; Another denial of murder committed against my ancestors. Out of eleven children in my fathers family, only two survived. What about some justice for the uncles and aunts i never knew. Nothing changes except the wording of denial..
John K.
i guarantee that 100% of armenians are ultra-nationalist and anti-Turk . Just check their school books.
necati
i suggest Armenians to file their claims in The international court with their legal evidences. Everything else is considered as black propaganda and has no validity being just old gossips.
necati
I, too, found the frankness and sincerity in Ismet Uçma's statements refreshing and hopeful. He is not a very visible person within AKP, and thus his statements were not reported widely. Let us hope that more people in influential positions voice these ideas. In terms of visibility, Sirri Süreyya Ön...
Ared Misirliyan
As shocking as the words uttered by this so-called official historian may sound, I personally am not surprised in the least bit. This mentality, with some exceptions of course, is unfortunately a part of the Turkish DNA. It is the result of nearly 100 years of carefully molding and nurturing racism ...
Ararat
I am confident in the Turksih people wisdom. The only handicap is that the Turks are forbidden to know the real history, what happened to the Armenians is a tabu, and there is an Official History in Turkey that falsified facts and elevates them to dogmas! Journalists, editors, writers that have the ...
Araratian Ararat
My hat is off to the present government of Turkey with all its shortcomings to let someone come out and say things as they really are. A few years ago one would find you in jail for just contemplating about writing such an article. There are still too many journalists in jail today in Turkey but the...
Yakov
'Genoxile' is a misleading and dishonest term (and I am alarmed that Orhan has fallen for it). The reason for the forced exile of Armenians from Anatolia was not only to be rid of them but to exterminate them as the abundance of evidence shows (even a cursory look at the conditions and outrages conf...
Rudolphus
You got the headache because the discussion did not tilt to your favour of a falsified genocide, very normal, it's called human psychology...
MUdo
"The massacre performed by Armenian gangs in cooperation with some foreign countries is one thing and the relocation of our Armenian citizens is another thing" This is not true. The former caused the latter. Armenian gangs were conducting a clandestine separatist guerilla terrorist campaign, so it w...
C. Emre Gülsever
All my dear Turkish friends dream of returning to the Altai Mountains.
JDB
A step forward.For Armenians Genocide is a fact.For Turks it is a taboo
VTiger
Wish that there were millions just like the world renowned Turkish journalist, Orhan Kemal Cengiz, who is considered by many as one of the few leaders of Righteous Turks. A brave and selfless human being, whose Only aim in life is to "heal the wounds" between our two peoples.
Preston Bagrationi
Mr Cengiz If an Argument is valid, It is not your business whether it is the official view or not. I personally do not care about what the Turkish officials say however, If my view and the official view are similar or the same then Hard luck to you
john the turk
This is why a historical committee looking at issues is a joke. Nationalists will put up people that side with their ideas, support them and claim that they are historians. Unfortunately there are hundreds of historians who are unemployed and would side with anyone under the right conditions. If one...
Mehmet
Mr. Cengiz, I share your disgust at the appalling comments, ugliness and tone of this 'historian'. Also, I am encouraged by the comments of Mr. Ismet Ucma, though I don't think the term 'genoxile' correctly describes the intent of the CUP at the time. There is little doubt in my mind these CUP offic...
Christoph
Mr. Cengiz, Your article gives me hope! No society can advance until it can look honestly at its past--good and bad-- and acknowledge what happened. Only then can healing happen, for both Armenians and Turks. Now forgive me for going off-topic, but I feel compelled to draw attention to a quote from ...
Paul
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